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Post by tryasta on Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:23 am

Soon it's going to be 2017 and the Lions will tour NZ.

I start this thread with a very very very very interesting comment by Warren Gatland about kiwis being arrogant. You can find it all here.


What I loved was this sentence:

Warren Gatland wrote:One of the the things I was proud of as a Kiwi was showing humility

Warren Gatland: Proud to be so humble.

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Post by ivelostmysparky on Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:47 am

So kiwis should be proud to be humble, yet not arrogant? Whatever you say Warren.
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Post by Bren on Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

I'm finding Gatland a bit baffling in this interview as well.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/current-all-blacks-side-are-not-the-best-ever-insists-lions-supremo-gatland-35181159.html


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Post by ivelostmysparky on Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:50 pm

Warren Gatland wrote:Anyone in New Zealand could coach the All Blacks and you would be guaranteed an 85% win record

He is deliberately being thick?
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Post by tryasta on Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:05 pm

How can he say both things at the same time: If anyone can jump in and get an 85% win record, how can these be not the best All Blacks ever?

Is it the same reasoning as the pride to be humble? I am a bit confused by all this doublespeak.


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Post by Bren on Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:12 pm

The only way it makes sense to me is if he's actually talking on two different subjects and the article is mashing them together.

i.e. Steve Hansen isn't that great. Any joker could get 85%, and sure these guys are good but they're no 1963/1987 team (that bit was confusing too)

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Post by ivelostmysparky on Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:55 pm

Perhaps he means that any NZ coach would have an 85% win record with the current guys, but any NZ coach would have had an even better win record (95%?) with the 1963 team.
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Post by tryasta on Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:41 am

Perhaps in his mind that is his best chance to have a crack at coaching them? That anyone can do it so even he can coach them? Razz

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